梁惠王下 · 第 01 / 16 章 · 孟子 1B.1
《孟子·梁惠王下》1B.1:独乐乐不如与众乐乐
孟子借“好乐”说明,政治不只关乎分配和刑罚,也关乎君主的快乐是否与百姓相通。不能与民同乐,再高雅的爱好也会变成怨气来源。
庄暴见孟子,曰:「暴见于王,王语暴以好乐,暴未有以对也。」曰:「好乐何如?」孟子曰:「王之好乐甚,则齐国其庶几乎!」他日见于王,曰:「王尝语庄子以好乐,有诸?」王变乎色,曰:「寡人非能好先王之乐也,直好世俗之乐耳。」曰:「王之好乐甚,则齐其庶几乎!今之乐,犹古之乐也。」曰:「可得闻与?」曰:「独乐乐,与人乐乐,孰乐?」曰:「不若与人。」曰:「与少乐乐,与众乐乐,孰乐?」曰:「不若与众。」「臣请为王言乐。今王鼓乐于此,百姓闻王钟鼓之声,管龠之音,举疾首蹙頞而相告曰:『吾王之好鼓乐,夫何使我至于此极也?父子不相见,兄弟妻子离散。』今王田猎于此,百姓闻王车马之音,见羽旄之美,举疾首蹙頞而相告曰:『吾王之好田猎,夫何使我至于此极也?父子不相见,兄弟妻子离散。』此无他,不与民同乐也。今王鼓乐于此,百姓闻王钟鼓之声,管龠之音,举欣欣然有喜色而相告曰:『吾王庶几无疾病与,何以能鼓乐也?』今王田猎于此,百姓闻王车马之音,见羽旄之美,举欣欣然有喜色而相告曰:『吾王庶几无疾病与,何以能田猎也?』此无他,与民同乐也。今王与百姓同乐,则王矣。」
英文参考译文
Zhuang Bao, seeing Mencius, said to him, 'I had an interview with the king. His Majesty told me that he loved music, and I was not prepared with anything to reply to him. What do you pronounce about that love of music?' Mencius replied, 'If the king's love of music were very great, the kingdom of Qi would be near to a state of good government!' Another day, Mencius, having an interview with the king, said, 'Your Majesty, I have heard, told the officer Zhuang, that you love music - was it so?' The king changed colour, and said, 'I am unable to love the music of the ancient sovereigns; I only love the music that suits the manners of the present age.' Mencius said, 'If your Majesty's love of music were very great, Qi would be near to a state of good government! The music of the present day is just like the music of antiquity, as regards effecting that.' The king said, 'May I hear from you the proof of that?' Mencius asked, 'Which is the more pleasant - to enjoy music by yourself alone, or to enjoy it with others?' 'To enjoy it with others,' was the reply. 'And which is the more pleasant - to enjoy music with a few, or to enjoy it with many?' 'To enjoy it with many.' Mencius proceeded, 'Your servant begs to explain what I have said about music to your Majesty. Now, your Majesty is having music here. The people hear the noise of your bells and drums, and the notes of your fifes and pipes, and they all, with aching heads, knit their brows, and say to one another, "That's how our king likes his music! But why does he reduce us to this extremity of distress? Fathers and sons cannot see one another. Elder brothers and younger brothers, wives and children, are separated and scattered abroad." Now, your Majesty is hunting here. The people hear the noise of your carriages and horses, and see the beauty of your plumes and streamers, and they all, with aching heads, knit their brows, and say to one another, "That's how our king likes his hunting! But why does he reduce us to this extremity of distress? Fathers and sons cannot see one another. Elder brothers and younger brothers, wives and children, are separated and scattered abroad." Their feeling thus is from no other reason but that you do not allow the people to have pleasure as well as yourself. 'Now, your Majesty is having music here. The people hear the noise of your bells and drums, and the notes of your fifes and pipes, and they all, delighted, and with joyful looks, say to one another, "That sounds as if our king were free from all sickness! If he were not, how could he enjoy this music?" Now, your Majesty is hunting here. The people hear the noise of your carriages and horses, and see the beauty of your plumes and streamers, and they all, delighted, and with joyful looks, say to one another, "That looks as if our king were free from all sickness! If he were not, how could he enjoy this hunting?" Their feeling thus is from no other reason but that you cause them to have their pleasure as you have yours. If your Majesty now will make pleasure a thing common to the people and yourself, the royal sway awaits you.'
重点修订页
人工补强的解释层
核心问题
为什么孟子要从“王好乐”谈到王道?
直接回答
因为一个统治者如何享乐,会暴露他到底是把人民排除在外,还是愿意让公共秩序也成为百姓可共享的安乐。快乐能否共享,本身就是政治问题。
第一性原理
权力者的私人偏好,一旦要动用公共资源和社会成本,就不再只是私事,而会直接暴露统治结构是否向人民开放。
为什么重要
这章把孟子政治哲学扩到文化与情感层面,适合承接“独乐乐不如众乐乐”“与民同乐”“politics of shared joy”这类搜索意图。
延伸阅读
这章在做什么
这章是《梁惠王下》第 1 / 16 章,最直接的进入线索是“暴见于王,王语暴以好乐,暴未有以对也”。放回全卷,它讨论的是与民同乐、战争判断与政治责任,并可与四端、仁政互相印证。
更宽的搜索入口
如果你带着更宽的问题进入这一章,先从正确的 hub 页进入
全卷语境
《梁惠王下》把与民同乐、战争选择和君主责任放到同一条政治判断链上。
引用提示
不要只截取“独乐乐”一句。后面关于百姓听见钟鼓而是欣然还是蹙额,才说明孟子衡量政治的标准不是审美,而是共享与隔绝。